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Is a disordered world a more united one? Public spaces are places in which communities come together, but they also have a huge impact on the way we live, think and feel. Sociologist Richard Sennet and architect and campaigner Pablo Sendra, authors of ground-breaking design manifesto The Uses of Disorder join Julia Wheeler to discuss the need to combine architecture, politics, urban planning and activism to create spaces that bring communities together, rather than divide them.